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PostPosted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:33 pm   Reply with quote

Theoretically there was the big bang. Was there? If there was such an event what caused it? If you are not a believer of the bang, how on earth did the earth get here?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:47 pm   Reply with quote

AdminSir wrote:
Theoretically there was the big bang. Was there? If there was such an event what caused it? If you are not a believer of the bang, how on earth did the earth get here?

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Perhaps a science student from an advanced otherworld species created the big bang and our world for his school project. When things weren't going well during the dinosaur ages, he hit us with a meteor to start anew. Of course, for him, the whole life of our planet equals only part of his semester. Yet, what created him and his world? And whatever that may be, what created that and so on?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:22 pm   Reply with quote

That is a very interesting take, but it has some logical errors.
First, and "otherworld species" is of this same universe, so it is appropriate to assume that it could not have existed before this universe was created.
The Big Bang is commonly accepted as the event time that released the energy that created the universe. Imagine this: an infinitesimally small point in space that contains all of the energy that created out universe, and absolutely nothing else. Impossible to do... I know Smile

So, if the Big Bang was the science experiment of an otherworld being, then that being would have to have done the experiment before its own existence.

And that brings up the theory of time travel in the negative direction (the past):

http://provokeyourmind.com/viewtopic.php?t=8
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:42 pm   Reply with quote

Well, that did poke some holes in the theory! Yet, could the big bang have occurred only in our part of the infinite universe and thus been created by a species from an impossibly distant area? And thinking about different species, couldn't they be very different in proportion from us? Perhaps we exist within one fraction of an atom of their species/world or they live within one fraction of an atom of ours.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:55 am   Reply with quote

The Big Bang was the point in time when our universe was created... it was not an event within a pre-existing universe. This is impossible to visualize, as we can't imagine absolutely nothing (go ahead, try it!).

Basically this topic is a conflict between modeern theoreticl physics and the imaginitive capacity of a thinker (such as InSearch). Although I tend to side with the physicists, I don't think that InSearch's point of view is wrong. It is a very interesting perspective... and A for creativity and imaginitive thought!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:55 pm   Reply with quote

Why couldn't it have been an event within a pre-existing universe? Why can't there be more types of 'stuff' in our universe than energy and matter as we know it? The existance of anti-matter has been proposed, and it explains the strange radiation of particles from black holes. If anti-matter and dark energy can exist, why can't matter as we know it have been the result of goings-on in a universe taking up the same space but comprised of something that we cannot even imagine? Most of the things we know about the universe come from their interaction with the electromagnetic field (i.e. looking at EM waves), so there could very well be other stuff out there that does not interact with our matter or energy.

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